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TSV NOW WANTS EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS

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TSV NOW WANTS EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS

Postby JBella » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:43 pm

Nothing like getting down to the trailhead at 6pm after a long day skiing in the backcountry, ready to drop your gear and head to the cantina for a beer or somewhere to grab a bite to eat. And then - realizing you get to walk a half mile through a parking lot which may be nearly empty to get to your car because @skitaos wants the entire upper parking lot for them, their employees, and no one else to use! And if you're backcountry camping, or otherwise wish to park your car on this PUBLIC PARKING LOT ON THE CARSON NATIONAL FOREST, the ski area is suddenly telling people for all overnight parking they have to use a different lot further down the road, the Deer lot which is roughly a half mile from the trailhead, and across NM Highway 150. Unless of course you want to pay $ to the ski area to park on our Public Lands on their paid parking sites, or stay at their hotel, because they've conveniently claimed much of the middle lot for these purposes as a service for their "guests".

At least that is what Taos Ski Valley, Inc. wants and is trying to do with the upper parking lot which is the formal trailhead for the Wheeler Peak Trail #90 and has always been freely available as a public lot for anyone to use, including the ski area, their customers and their employees. The Carson National Forest knows about this issue, I'll share the letter I wrote to them also, and comments have been going back and forth on social media for a while, but I'm posting this here for anyone who isn't yet aware of this situation. Please see the pictures from December 4th. Please contact the Carson National Forest to provide your insight, opinions and comments. This is not cool on the ski area's part and we need to stop it to maintain open and equal access at this trailhead.

Thanks

Link to USFS site for the Wheeler Peak Trail #90 - https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/carson/ ... &actid=104

Link to @TaosBC instagram post about this, with several public comments; https://www.instagram.com/p/B54dMsoloBq/

Link to @SkiTaos instagram post which includes comments about this; https://www.instagram.com/p/B53oLhaloyo/

Carson NF contact page - https://www.fs.usda.gov/carson/

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Re: TSV NOW WANTS EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS

Postby JBella » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:48 pm

Copy of my comments I emailed to the Carson NF detailing some points of why TSV's actions are not acceptable;

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Re: TSV NOW WANTS EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS

Postby Marc » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:52 pm

Perhaps there needs to be some leadership to have a discussion with the USFS? It may be that simple, it may not be, but it appears clear that this may be a real issue and if unchecked, could go a bit further. I definitely would want to be able to continue to use the parking access on public lands, and I would want all my clients to be able to have the same opportunity. There's definitely a group of public user groups who do not use the Ski Area. All good points, JBella.
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Re: TSV NOW WANTS EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS

Postby JBella » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:01 pm

I hope you're right about that Marc, because someone who is a genuine leader regarding public land access in our area who works with the Enchanted Circle Trails Association has been paying attention to this issue and said he would be discussing it with the forest service. I've also been contacted by a few people who asked about the possibility of organizing a formal Backcountry Alliance similar to what other areas like Tahoe and the Wasatch mountains have. This is something to consider, because like you said there is an active presence of user groups who do not use the ski area, or who don't ski at the ski area as often as they use our Wilderness and other public lands.
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Re: TSV NOW WANTS EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS

Postby Bob » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:20 pm

Thanks for this, JBella. I will be making my thoughts known to the FS.
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